IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 26 Jun 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. * Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group * Doug White, Cisco Systems * Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems * Ian Dodd Joe Abler, IBM John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems * Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU * Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: - Arpad has changed affiliation to Mentor Graphics ------------- Review of ARs: - Arpad: Review the new macro library files. - TBD - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD - What is the history of this? - May have started when Ian was at Mentor - Created a "back door" way for EDA vendors to support old SPICE with parameter passing using IBIS 4.1 - Ian wanted parameter passing for all extensions, not just ATM - Ian willing to write a BIRD, but needs the ATM syntax first - IBIS can not assign value while calling module in AMS - TBD - EDA vendors clarify "electrically isolated" in BIRD - Conceptual distinction - One part of circuit essentially does not affect others - Walter had suggested "high impedance path" - Assign to Todd - TBD - Arpad and Michael get specific data on the non-linear behavior problem - Assign to Michael Mirmak - Ambrish send draft AMI BIRD 1.0 for Mike to post on web site - Done - Hemant will publish an open source reference model by Jul 17 - TBD - Ambrish include page numbers in AMI BIRD footer and revision table - Done ------------- New Discussion: Presentation by Todd: IBIS-ATM Model Validation: - SiSoft is offering free software to validate API models. - Page 6: - Arpad pointed out that ibischk doesn't check any [External Model]s or [External Circuit]s, whether they are compiled or not - Page 7: - Radek said that the man page document does not cover all issues. - Page 9: - Arpad asked Todd to reverse the order of the first two bullets to match the pictures better. - Doug asked if a reference RX model would be added. - Todd will send Mike LaBonte a PDF to post. Discussion of reference models and test plans: - SiSoft will have a kit for distribution in a week or two. - Source will be provided - Source will be NOT be provided, but executable will have debugging symbols to enable debugging. - By next week Cadence and SiSoft will have models that can be tested. - Cadence indicated that they also have a similar validation program that they may share with the IBIS-ATM group. - Arpad asked who can test models. AR: Todd send IBIS-ATM Model Validation presentation to Mike AR: Mike post IBIS-ATM Model Validation to website Next meeting: 24 Jul 2007 12:00pm PT